you know, for extending the bush tax cuts, is it 250,000 and above, that you let the taxes go up, is it 400, 500,000, ultimately what it comes down to, harry reid says i can get enough votes from democrats to support this plan. >> and democrats say and republicans say that would be about the 1 percent-ers, so-called 1 percenters would hit that 400,000 a year maybe higher, up to 500,000, what revenue does this generate? we've been hearing about this for a long time. what does it actually generate? well, if we take about 12.4 days to run the federal government, that's the amount of money extra that the government would bring in to run the federal government. that's how much we spend in 12 days. so, all of this fighting back and forth, that's why so much is being said or lack of-- i guess i should say, lack of being said about cuts. and the real way we can grow this economy is cuts. get all of this out of control spending in place first. >> dave: right, and just the conversation alone that we're now having, the american people are the loser in this deal because none of this talk is abou